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G5RV Antenna

 

The G5RV antenna is probably one of the most maligned antennas in the world. I'm not quite sure how it got its reputation, but if there was ever a national association for the advancement or fair treatment of antennas the G5RV would be the poster child! Part of this is because people install G5RV's in very sloppy installations and then assume all G5RV's will perform like their badly installed antenna. Another part of the problem is people quote, read, or misread inaccurate articles or folklore.

 

My G5RV Experience

I installed my first G5RV antenna in the mid-90's. It was about 102 feet long. It was fed with 30-feet of 300-ohm transmitting type ladder line. I had a choke balun made of 20-30 feet of RG8X wound on a thin wall 4" PVC drain pipe. This choke was at the transition between the twinlead and coax. My antenna was installed about 80-100 feet above ground between two tall Pine trees.

 

 

 

To work 160, I built a small box that contained a small vacuum relay. With the relay engaged the antenna is worked against ground. This made it a 100-foot tall "T" antenna that I worked against a radial system. My final system looked like this:

G5RV or dipole on 160 meters

 

It isn't necessary to have 100 feet of height. Even heights as low as 30-feet will work, but C1 might have to be changed to an inductor, L network, or some other simple antenna matching system. The 160-meter matching system must not create a path to ground when in the HF position. In my system, I really didn't care if the feeder radiated a little or not. The antenna was a safe distance from the house and any noise sources.

 

G5RV SWR

Here are plots of G5RV feedline SWR:

The G5RV has a reasonable SWR on 80, 40, 20, 15, and 12 meters. It is not an acceptable performer on 30, 17, or 10 meters. SWR is actually better with 300-ohm transmitting line than with the 450 ohm line normally used.

While the G5RV requires an antenna tuner, it is very efficient on at least 5 bands. This is true even when fed through fairly long runs of RG-213 feedline.

 

Feedpoint Impedance

There is a myth that the G5RV works better with a 75 ohm feedline. This myth stems from the fact Varney, G5RV, originally used 70 ohm twinlead to feed the antenna.

Here are the impedances of the G5RV at resonance near each band where it has a reasonable SWR. This is with no feedline loss, measured right at the twinlead end where coax would connect:

Frequency = 3.7 MHz
Impedance = 17.17 - J 0.2957 ohms
SWR (50 ohm system) = 2.912 (75 ohm system) = 4.368


Frequency = 7.8 MHz
Impedance = 23.7 + J 1.429 ohms
SWR (50 ohm system) = 2.112 (75 ohm system) = 3.166


Frequency = 14.26 MHz
Impedance = 95.9 - J 0.05889 ohms
SWR (50 ohm system) = 1.918 (75 ohm system) = 1.279

Frequency = 20.3 MHz
Impedance = 21.74 - J 0.835 ohms
SWR (50 ohm system) = 2.301 (75 ohm system) = 3.451

Frequency = 24.73 MHz
Impedance = 93.96 - J 0.3803 ohms
SWR (50 ohm system) = 1.879 (75 ohm system) = 1.253

You can see the antenna slightly misses resonance on several bands, but not so far that SWR is intolerable. Either 50 or 75 ohm feedline would work, either being about equal with the other.
 

Feedlines and Feedline Losses

You should use good quality coax on the G5RV, and a good antenna tuner.

There isn't any reason to run a certain length 50 ohm feeder (it can be 75 ohms also, if good quality). The shorter and better the feedline, the better the antenna will work.

Assuming a 100-foot long LMR-400 feedline we have the following mid-band feedline losses when a G5RV is compared to the same transmission line with a perfectly matched antenna:

Band 80 40 30 20 17 15 12 10
SWR  ? : 1 2.71 4.1 16.5 1.85 9.9 5.5 2.6 10.2
Dipole Loss -dB 0.25 0.35 0.4 0.49 0.56 0.6 0.65 0.7
G5RV Loss -dB 0.37 0.92 6.3 0.6 4.46 2.1 1.0 7.4

Note: SWR is at the radio end of the 100 ft long 50 ohm feedline!

We can see on 80, 40, 20, and 12 meters the antenna above has very good efficiency. Efficiency be essentially just as good as a dipole. On 15 meters performance is still good. The antenna is poor on 30 and 10 meters.  

On The Air Testing

One of the only ways to reliably test an HF antenna is a blind A-B comparison against another known good reference antenna. Since I also had a dipole at 100 feet a few hundred feet away from the G5RV (similar height), I had an ideal testing situation.

Blind Test

I checked into various groups on 75 meters and did a blind A B antenna test. I would say "this is antenna one one one, this is antenna two two two" while switching antennas. The results were:

  1. Nearly ALL of the reports indicated NO difference in signals! (58 equal reports)
  2. When a difference in signal was reported, about equally split either the full size dipole or G5RV would win. (7 G5RV better, 9 dipole better)

Announced Tests

I also did tests that called the antennas by name. I would say "This is the the G5RV,G5RV, G5RV. This is the dipole, dipole, dipole". The results were rather revealing.

  1. When I would call each antenna by the correct name, the G5RV was reported "weaker" or with "poorer audio" or some other negative comment more than 80% of the time. The remaining stations reported no difference!
  2. When I would call each antenna by the opposite name, the antenna I was calling the G5RV was still reported in some negative context about 80% of the time. The remaining percentage again reported no real difference.

Conclusions

Based on models and air testing the G5RV performs quite well as a 5-band antenna. Those bands include 80, 40, 20, 15, and 12 meters. The antenna will NOT work as well as a dipole on any other HF band.

By adding a relay and a ground system the G5RV can be made to work quite well as a "T" antenna on 160 meters.

People have an overwhelming prejudice against the G5RV. This prejudice even biases signal reports when they think a G5RV is being used. Like any antenna, the G5RV will work best when up in the clear. Run it through the bushes or like a clothesline and it might be a disappointing antenna, but then so would a dipole or Rhombic at the same crummy height.

 

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