Grid resonance

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The single largest cause of VHF instability in amateur power tubes is grid-to-anode feedback. This even occurs in grounded grid amplifiers. Control grid construction, lead lengths inside the tube, sockets, and socket wiring to chassis ground dramatically affect grid impedance at higher frequencies.

One way to measure effectiveness of grid grounding is measuring S21 with the grid grounded. By applying a leveled source that sweeps frequency at the cathode and placing a sensitive detector at the anode, an isolation vs. frequency isolation level can be plotted. This plot will show the frequencies where the grid is not effectively grounded.

Example 1, 3-500Z E F Johnson Socket

Directly grounded to chassis with shortest possible connection.

Grid grounding feedthrough isolation 3-500Z Johnson socket

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notice low impedance dip at 95MHz, a peak at 121 MHz, and a reasonably broad increase in grid impedance all the way up to 404 MHz. Test have shown this tube/socket combination without suitable parasitic suppression can oscillate anywhere from 110 to 250MHz, depending on anode impedance and exact layout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3-500Z Ameritron Socket  

The Ameritron socket uses a ground plane to connect all grid pins. It has short wide socket connections. Here is the same tube with only a socket change.

   grid shielding feedthrough coupling 3-500Z Ameritron socket

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The grid is most ineffective ("parallel resonant") at 202 MHz. There is a series-resonance effect or low impedance at 116 MHz.  Tests prove this socket and tube combination, without any anode parasitic suppressor, oscillates at about 200 MHz in the AL-80A or AL80B amplifier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3-500Z Johnson Socket with three 500pF grid capacitors

This arrangement is typical of amplifiers like the SB-220 and Kenwood TL-922 in that the grid is not directly grounded. The grid is grounded through 500pF capacitors with one inch of total lead length.

 

3-500Z grid grounding Heathkit SB-220 Kenwood TL-922

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Notice the large increase in VHF feed through, indicating the grid is no longer effectively grounded at frequencies above 50MHz.

A suppressor with many more turns is required to stabilizing an amplifier with this grid arrangement. The grid is very well grounded at 30 MHz.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3-500Z and socket with long grid leads

I attempted to use a grid dip meter to measure grid resonance. This In this only case where my GDO meter would dip.

3-500Z Johnson socket with 1 inch long ground leads

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again this is a poor grid connection arrangement, and the only one where I saw a reliable dip at the socket grid pins. In this case the amplifier could oscillate somewhere between 100 and 250MHz, depending on the anode system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3-500Z with three 33pF capacitors

Reducing capacitor size to 33pF looks like this:

3-500Z series capacitor grid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This creates a dip at 85MHz but at the cost of much poorer performance across the rest of the spectrum. This is not a good arrangement.

Of all these configurations the best is a direct connection from grid to ground with the shortest possible leads. This will make the least troublesome amplifier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

811A Tube with direct grid ground

Here is the same test procedure with an 811A tube.

811A tube grid grounding feedthrough capacitance

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We can see the 811A has much higher feedthrough than a 3-500Z. The grid is poorly grounded through a long internal grid lead. The poor grid-to-ground connection makes the 811A tube much more difficult to stabilize. An 811A with long anode lead length tends to oscillate on 50-60 MHz. The 811A, with four tubes in parallel, is also unstable at HF without neutralization.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

811A with grid through 500pF capacitor

Here is an 811A with the grid grounded through a 500pF capacitor.

811A 500 pF to ground similar Collins 30L1 and Yaesu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 500pF capacitor doesn't make a great deal of difference because the grid is already poorly grounded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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